The consequences of generator motoring and the level of power drawn from the power system will be dependent on the type of prime mover as under this condition prime mover acts as a load for synchronous Motor. For steam turbines, the motoring power is around 0.5-3 % of rated power of Generator. Under the failure of prime mover, due to motoring of turbine windage loss will be more in turbine blades as there is no steam to cool it down. Thus it will lead to damage of turbine.
Reverse Power element of Numerical Relay calculates the three phase active power using its current and voltage input based on the following formula,
P = VaIaCosØa + VbIbCosØb + VcIcCosØc
The Numerical Relay is connected with the convention that the forward current is the current flowing from the generator to the busbar. This corresponds to positive values of the active power flowing in the forward direction. When a generator is operating in the motoring mode, the machine is consuming active power from the power system and if this active power crosses the set value, then after the set time delay the relay will operate to trip the Breaker.
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As discussed earlier, one cause of reverse power flow in a generator is failure of prime mover. Now failure of prime mover may be because of failure of Governor or failure of Governor Valve or maloperation of Boiler Pressure Control System.
Another cause of reverse power flow occurs during synchronization of Generator. Let us assume that Generator is to be synchronized with the Grid. The general practice for synchronizing a Generator is to close the breaker when the needle on the synchroscope is moving clockwise and crossing 11 O’clock position as shown in figure below.
Picture taken from Yokogawa Meters and Instruments Corporation |
As shown in figure, the position of needle is at 12 O’clock. Suppose the frequency of Generator is less than the frequency of Grid, in this case the needle of synchroscope won’t move in clockwise i.e. fast direction rather it will move anticlockwise direction i.e. toward slow direction. If we close Generator circuit breaker in such condition, then the Grid will try to take the Generator to synchronous speed by feeding power to the Generator and motoring of Generator will take place. Thus in such case also reverse power will flow.
in the power plant which i work has provided reverse power protection with two different time delays, can you please specify the reason for having two different time delays for same protection
I need to check. I will post on this. Please check latter.
Often there will be different time delays for different levels of reverse power. The effect of reverse power while generating is overheating your generator: The more reverse power the faster it heats requiring a faster disconnection time to stop insulation burning.
my hydro power plant frequently tripped during about 70 percent loaded condition as well while starting time displaying reverse power protection. could you please suggest the reason behind it?? what is the causes of reverse power protection in hydro power plant??please suggest remedial action.
How much is the setting for reverse power protection?
the reason for setting two time delay are 1) If reverse power relay operates due to actual/ real fault in the generator 2) For shutdown of power plant, Basically the two timings will have different set values. Set 1 is used as low set operates for large value for power and set 2 is for shutdown.
@ Rajendra Prasad Kafle
1. Please check the delay setting reverse power relay, correct if it has been tampered by any technician and is different from the design setting.
2. During synchronisation, confirm whether the load is being increased immediately by DCS/SCADA engineer or not, Delay in increasing load may cause reverse power drawing from the grid and finally the reverse power protection acts.
3. For tripping at load of 70% , check the characteristics of the controller whether it is working properly in that zone or not, inability to feed the desired quantity of water to move the prime mover may also act the tripping on reverse power protection as the generator tend to maintain the frequency synchronous to that of the grid.
In a situation whereby the master generator is calling in the slave generator and after few seconds of trying to call in the slave its shutdown boths, what is the cause?
i have CAT 220kVA with woodward LSeries actuator and synchro panel intelicompact nt mint 5 engines in parallel.
they start very ok but problem on synchronization part. before synchronizing genset operate ok, when synchronized they get load on each genset to much and the priority 4 gets 250A each phase and alternator heats up. voltage drop but freq and rpm stay within limits. how do i solve this?
Good day, I have 2 cat generators (1.5MVA) in parallel, whenever there is a power utility failure, the two gen start (gen1 has priority over gen2) and they are loaded, after few minutes the gen2 drop load and show reverse power trip alarm When I try to clear the alarm on gen2 and put it on auto to start in parallel with gen1, afer it sync (loads) with gen1 few minute its dropped load and popup reverse power alarm…..One thing I discovered was that when gen2 sync and load with gen1, I noticed Gen1 power start increasing instead of dropping since gen2 has sync and loaded, after gen2 popup alarm the gen1 goes back to its normal power value
PLEASE WHAT COULD BE THE CAUSE OF THIS………. Your answer will be appreciated
How to solve the problem of reverse power, unit gets synchronized but eventually the breaker trips showing the reverse power status? Plz I need some suggestions.
Please check relay setting if the mode is set Generating mode or Motor?